The Guest List (Pt. 1)

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to BMC Book Club. I'm Kristen. [00:00:02] Speaker B: And I'm Summer. This is the podcast where we bring you all the comfort and gossip of a regular book club. But just between you, me and her. [00:00:12] Speaker A: And you may be wondering what the B stands for. Well, the B stands for bridesmaid and. [00:00:19] Speaker B: The C stands for compact. [00:00:20] Speaker A: How's your life been going this summer? [00:00:24] Speaker B: Life has been going. You know, I had a nice chill day today. We went to Lowe's, we went and got sushi for lunch. So pretty stuffed right now. And last night my dog got sick, so I've just been babying her all day long. Got it. What about you? [00:00:44] Speaker A: I am about to go on a four, five day weekend, so I'm very excited about that because of how much trouble work has been giving me lately. So it's fine. I go back on Tuesday. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Nice long weekend for you. [00:01:01] Speaker A: Mm. Okay, so today we are going over the first half of the guest list by Lucy Foley. So why did we decide to read this book this time? [00:01:12] Speaker B: I wanted a different genre than fantasy. I wanted to read a mystery novel. I went actually with the author, Lucy Folley, because my mother in law just gave me a book and it's written by the same author. I haven't read that one yet, but I decided that, you know, if I'm gonna dive into this author, I might as well just take two books with me. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Yeah, what's the other book called? [00:01:36] Speaker B: The Paris Apartment. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Yeah, I've heard of that one too. This is my first Lucy Foley Foley book. [00:01:44] Speaker B: Mine too. I didn't want to read the other book before I read this one because I wanted like it to experience her kind of writing with you. [00:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:53] Speaker B: Make sense. I do this thing with mystery novels where I just make a super out there prediction even though I have zero context of anything happening in the book. So I do have a blind prediction as soon as we start this to. Did you make one? [00:02:12] Speaker A: Not a blind prediction. I mean, I didn't know really anything about this book other than that what was on the back because the back is pretty short. And so just by virtue of kind of just having the book in front of me, sometimes I will flip back and forth to look at it before I start. And because the little excerpt in the back is so easy and short to read, I did read what that back was about, which is basically saying that it's at a wedding, some one of these people is a murderer. We just had to figure it out. So that's all that I knew about it, but I didn't know anything else. And I didn't really try to make a prediction. I was just trying to go with the flow. I thought I was gonna make a prediction by middle of the book, but we don't even know who's dead yet, so I feel it's hard for me to make a prediction, but we'll get there. [00:02:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I get that. I made this blind prediction based off of the back of the book. Like you were saying, it's pretty short into the point. It basically says, and I'll read it verbatim right now. An exclusive wedding on a remote Irish island. The bride, the plus one, the best man, the wedding planner, the bridesmaid. All have a secret, all have a motive, but only one is a murderer. We basically are given a suspect list as soon as we pick up the book. [00:03:22] Speaker A: Right. [00:03:23] Speaker B: So using that, my very, very blind prediction is that the groom is the one murdered because he wasn't on the list, and that it's the plus one because. I don't know, plus one seems the least likely. Okay, right. [00:03:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Because they technically have no reason to be there other than their significant other needs to be there. You know, that's what I was going. [00:03:45] Speaker A: And honestly, when I read plus one, for some reason, to me, I think dating, but they're married. And when it was still under the plus one umbrella, I'm like, oh, I guess technically, yes, your wife is your plus one. But in my head, I was like, yeah, but you guys are going together. Like, it's both of you. Considering their relationship, Charlie and Jules, I can definitely see how Hannah is specifically the plus one because she would not be invited. But I just mean in general, in my daily life, I think of, like, oh, married couples. Like, I wouldn't consider Sid your plus one. I would consider it being I invite you and Sid. [00:04:17] Speaker B: That's because you know Sid. But if I were to go to a work friend's wedding, they know me, but they don't know Sid, so he would be my plus one. [00:04:25] Speaker A: That's true. [00:04:26] Speaker B: And I only think this way because I've already thrown my wedding. So, like, yes, I know one person, but I don't know their wife or their significant other. And so for me, even wives and husbands always say plus one to me. Like, I never thought they were, you know? [00:04:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:48] Speaker B: But since we're talking about weddings, the book does start off on the wedding night. So this book does go between present day, which is the wedding night, and everything currently happening and unfolding and the day before. And that's as far back as we go, really, we will tell stories of what's happened before, but it's in the context of the day before the wedding still. So we start on the wedding night. Lights keep going out. There's a storm happening on the island. Waves are crashing every. Like, the lights keep going out. So guests keep. Like, they're afraid for a minute, but then they're pretending everything's fine when the lights come back on. But then there's like a storm surge and the lights go out for a couple of minutes. The guests start to freak out a little bit. One of them stepped on glass, and now there's bloody footprints on the floor, which is a little ominous setting. And we hear a scream outside. And then immediately we go to the day before and checking in with the wedding planner, whose name is. How do you pronounce it? Pronounce this. [00:05:54] Speaker A: Aofi. [00:05:56] Speaker B: I've been saying that too. Aofie. I think that's how it's pronounced. I'm so sorry if that's butchered. [00:06:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Considering that it is Irish, I will assume that I'm saying it incorrectly, especially with my American accent. So the way that I read it as an American is Aofie. But that is just, like, phonetically saying it. It's not how they say it there. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Yeah, that's exactly how I've been reading it as well. So, yeah, maybe after this recording, I'll look it up. That's so bad. [00:06:30] Speaker A: Okay. Actually, we could do that now. I can look it up. Yeah. Pronunciation Aoife. [00:06:41] Speaker B: Okay, we go right to the day before. Aoife, the wedding planner, she's telling us that all the main people of the wedding party are staying at the house on the island. All the other guests are gonna get voted in the morning of. So that's the next day. There's a ton of alcohol for the wedding. The bride is kind of described as demanding, entitled. But she runs a magazine, which is why she's kind of like that. This is the first wedding there because the planner who owns the place just decided to buy the house on the island and start to do these weddings. And she got this big contract with someone important in order to kick it off. And she lives there with her husband Freddy, and he cooks. So far, all we've done is really set the scene. [00:07:31] Speaker A: Yes. And for me, she was an automatic no for a killer. [00:07:35] Speaker B: See, I thought the same thing, and I still think that at the end of the half book, But I. I didn't write it down yet. Like, I write it down further in when I'm like, okay, 100. It's not her. [00:07:47] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I was. I was literally this one. I don't. I went off vibes for everybody's first POV chapter because all the suspect list that they name now gets a point of view chapter along with the wedding night chapters that we have interspersed between this and so on. Their first, like insight into them was when I would make a guess of whether or not I thought they did it. She was the only one that was an automatic no, which kind of makes me think that maybe I've like discounted her too early. But at the same time I'm like, no, I just don't get it from her. I'm just not feeling the vibes. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the most suspicious thing though. [00:08:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. But she's also the one that's least connected to everybody. So it would be different if we knew who the killer was and like, oh, maybe it was Freddie that died. We know that it's not Freddie because Freddie was in the second to last chapter before we got to the half. But if it was somebody like, oh, we know that Freddy died. And I'm like, oh, then for sure if he. [00:08:48] Speaker B: It could be her. Yeah, would be her. [00:08:50] Speaker A: But because it's still like most likely somebody part. A part of the wedding party. I'm like, she doesn't really. She wants to have a business. She doesn't want to kill any of these people. That would really not be good for her business. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Definitely not. [00:09:05] Speaker A: Okay, so now we are with Hannah, the plus one. Her and her husband Charlie are on a boat on the way to the wedding and she is motion sick. The boat captain and her husband are talking because her husband is a teacher and so he likes to look things up. And he looked at the history of the island and the captain is kind of telling him what facts he got wrong versus like what's legend of the island. And that he, the boat captain tells him that the first people that settled there on the island were part of a religious sect. And then an archaeologist found them 20 years ago in the bog. Perfectly preserved, but they were hacked to death. So nobody's entirely sure what's going on in this island. It's kind of creepy, especially because there's a bog there. There's a lot of rocks. Like, it's looks like a semi uninhabitable island, but they do have this huge, huge house and a chapel apparently. [00:09:52] Speaker B: Why did these rich people decide the creepiest island would be the best location? [00:09:56] Speaker A: I don't know. I have no idea. So ever since Hannah and Charlie met, she's felt less than Jules, which is the bride, because Charlie and Jules are childhood best friends. And Hannah just feels frumpy around Jules because Jules is runs a magazine and she has a lot of money and, like, she knows how to present herself. And Hannah is just like, she was kind of a wild child when they met. They were just like super happy and fun together. But now that they've been married a couple years and they have a couple kids, like, things are definitely winding down in the relationship, especially passion wise. And so this weekend should be a good distraction for them from the kids and from life because she hasn't been on vacation in a while. And Charlie's like, it'll be a good time to reconnect. And Jules is marrying a man who is a survivalist on the television. But Charlie doesn't like him very much. And it maybe is because of the whole dynamic with Charlie and Jules, but because Charlie doesn't like him very much, Hannah has to watch Will secretly on the tv and, like, is kind of obsessed with him, especially because she has to watch him secretly on the TV because Charlie doesn't like him. And so they can't watch the TV together. And also, Charlie went to Will's stag party and he came back weird. He doesn't want to talk about it. He doesn't really say anything that happened. He just is like, acts weird anytime that she brings it up and says that she. He doesn't really like Will. Like, there's just something about it that he seems very standoffish towards Will. And then after all this, she throws him. [00:11:24] Speaker B: I actually think it's hilarious that you're saying the tv. Like. Like most people would say he's a survivalist on a show and then say, she keeps watching the show, but you're like, the TV. [00:11:35] Speaker A: She keeps watching the TV. Her iPad, whatever. The television. She's watching the television. And it's not about me saying TV versus television. You're literally just saying I should say show. But I'm just saying there are just some idioms that I can't get rid of. I don't know. [00:11:54] Speaker B: That's okay. We'll move on. [00:11:57] Speaker A: And for me, Jules was a maybe, because I'm. I'm like, there's something fishy going on in their relationship. Like, my first reaction with her, I'm like, if she gets pushed too far, she could potentially snap and kill somebody. So I'm like, she's a maybe, but it's a very low maybe. [00:12:11] Speaker B: My first Reaction to her chapter is that Charlie and Jules are 100 in love. That's literally all. [00:12:18] Speaker A: I don't think they're 100% in love, but I do think that there's some things that they shouldn't be doing happening. [00:12:23] Speaker B: They definitely love each other. I mean, there's no question about that. [00:12:27] Speaker A: Yeah, they do. They do definitely love each other. It's like, not quite to an emotional affair, but it's basically at an emotional. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:12:35] Speaker A: Anytime they're together, so weird. So weird. [00:12:39] Speaker B: As a wife. Shut that down for real. [00:12:42] Speaker A: She is, like. She's so insecure about it, though, that she's like, I cannot literally. I cannot pursue this subject because if I. I even, like, touch it, it'll bring me down rough. So now we are at Jules. Jules's chapter, the bride chapter. And turns out she got a note a couple of weeks ago telling her to call off her wedding to Will. And it's kind of freaking her out because she's a huge planner, and this wasn't really in her plans. Her only bridesmaid that she has is her half sister Olivia, and Charlie is her best man. The majority of the wedding party, like we said, is staying at the Foley or at the castle sort of building that they're in. It's called the Foley. The night before the wedding. And she only chose those three people because that's literally the only people that she's close to. Like, she doesn't have any other friends. She doesn't talk to really anybody else. It's weird to her that Will has so many groomsmen, ushers, because they're British, and so they call them something differently. [00:13:41] Speaker B: It took me a second to realize that the ushers are the. The groomsmen. As an American, I'm so sorry, guys. [00:13:53] Speaker A: Jules was a late bloomer, bloomer in life, and so she's still a little insecure about that. It's so hard for her to meet people. It's still hard for her to interact with people because she automatically feels that in her life that everyone thinks that she's less than and that she's not good enough for people. And then Will walks in because she's trying on her dress at this time, and she's just, like, admiring it because she wants everything to be perfect. And then Will, her fiance, walks, and they start going at it. Apparently, they're very hot and heavy, and normally she's one because this dress is silk. She would never have somebody touch it with their bare hands. But he just comes in and he just starts Going at it. He can touch it however he wants because she's just obsessed with him. Especially because she feels like there's a part of him that he's holding back. And so that's the part of him that she craves of, like, wanting to have all of him. And so that's one of the reasons why she made the decision to get married this fast. They've only been dating for a couple of months, but she really likes the way that Will makes her feel. And she feels like she's never gonna feel like this again. Plus, they're, like, super ambitious, both, and she thinks it'll be a good fit for them. Apparently, he's so weird and sexual that he's been making them film their sex because he likes it. It gets him off. And so she's like, I guess if that's what you want to do, we can film our sex. And then as they're about to have sex again, then the best man, Jono, walks in. Yeah, Jono. I would like. I would love to call him Johnny, but it's Jono. And he's like, oh, guys, sorry to interrupt, but I forgot my suit, so that's kind of a problem. And Will is like, oh, you can just borrow mine, even though it'll be three sizes too small. And Jules kind of hates Jono. She thinks that he's a slob, and she thinks that he's a slacker and that she doesn't understand why Will is still friends with him. Especially because Will is successful and he has his own TV show and he is doing all these things, and Jono is just kind of like a guy that he knew when he was younger. And she's like, I really don't think that you should be friends with him anymore, considering where you're at in life. And she hopes that just because they are still good friends, that there's not something in Will's past that will come back to haunt them. And she's a. Maybe for me, because she admits herself that she's ruthless. [00:16:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:05] Speaker A: And I'm like, there's a little parts of her that she could go off the wall. [00:16:10] Speaker B: I agree. I mean. But also, like, weddings make you stressed out. And so she's at, like, the most stressed she's ever gonna be, you know? [00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I suppose. [00:16:20] Speaker B: And so at this point, though, I. [00:16:22] Speaker A: Thought that Jono was faking everything and that he was actually like, a semi good guy. And he, like, had his suit and he did all this and he did all that, and, like, he had his shit Together. And he was just faking it in front of her just to, like, see her reaction, to see if, like, she was actually a good person or not. But that's not what it is. [00:16:38] Speaker B: I actually totally get that because at this point I was like, jono doesn't seem like that bad of a guy. Like, forgetting your suit is an honest mistake. He literally was like, I had it hanging up and I just forgot to grab it. Like, that can happen to anyone. You know, it doesn't necessarily guarantee that this is always him. He's always the kind of guy who just forgets everything. So at this point I was like, she's kind of portraying him to be a worse off guy, but he could still be normal. [00:17:08] Speaker A: I mean, I can't relate considering that I brought two bridesmaid dresses to your wedding and I can only wear one. [00:17:14] Speaker B: But yeah, honestly, I would have been like, get somebody on the phone. Someone's bringing him a suit tomorrow. [00:17:21] Speaker A: No, for sure. There are still at the. They're still on the main island. Like, pick up a suit for him that's actually his size and bring it on down if you want it to look perfect. [00:17:29] Speaker B: Or go get his suit. [00:17:31] Speaker A: His literally, Will's mom and dad are still on their way. Like, they can pick up Jono's suit. They know him. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Yeah, ridiculous. Anyway, that's just over. Planner bride, me. So the next chapter is when we get a little bit of insight into Jono, the best man. He and Will are. They're really good friends. Best friends have been forever. They kind of know that Olivia, who is the sister, half sister of Jules, the bride, she's been disappearing on and off throughout their. Their time on the island so far. And Will mentions, just ignore her. She's kind of crazy. Like, her mother Jonna was like, actually, Olivia's pretty hot. And then Will shuts him down immediately and is like, actually, that's pretty creepy. You're 15 years older than her and she's 19. So we're gonna step back here. Understandable, Will. Understandable. Jono reveals that he's the one who's always been into the outdoors. He was just a part of some outdoor company that he, like, showed people how to camp and rock climb and all that good stuff. Will reveals that Jono auditioned for his show at one point as well, and it didn't go well because Jono's just not an on screen kind of guy. We find out that Will's show isn't even all necessarily Will. He has stunt doubles. He has a makeup team. Like, it's a lot of tricks and mirrors, you know? Will says something about being a huge player, but assures Jono that Jules is the girl for him. She's perfect. They're both ambition. She ambitious. She gets him and things like that. Jono thinks, honestly, it's because of the money she has, but they both ignore it. His other four groomsmen, ushers, show up. They're all friends from school who are wealthy, better off. We learn that Will was only in the school because his dad was the headmaster, and Jono was in the school because he came on a scholarship, a sports scholarship. So they're the two that are different from the large group of guys. And honestly, they, like, kind of talk to the other guys and they're just jerks. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:47] Speaker B: And then we also learned that Jono is starting a whiskey business and he brought some of the bottles for the wedding, and he named his business Hellraiser, which is kind of interesting. They mention slightly that they used to do stupid shit in school, and they're all joking about it. And then we find out at the very end, like, Jono and Will, of course, are the strongest bond out of the whole group because they're the closest and they know the most about each other. Take that as you will. [00:20:17] Speaker A: And for Jono, I would just always suspect a man to be a killer, but he's, for the most part, is just giving me red herring vibes. Like, I feel like he is the most obvious person who could potentially be a killer, especially because he is a man. And he does seem to have maybe anger issues or, like, something going on where it'd be very easy to see, like, oh, if anybody killed him, it was that guy. [00:20:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:40] Speaker A: But. But because of that, I am not super suspicious of him. And maybe that, again, is to my detriment, but there's just something about him that I feel like they're gonna think that it's him, but it actually ends up not being him. [00:20:50] Speaker B: I definitely agree with that. Like, he could be the red herring because he is the most suspicious suspect out of everyone. [00:21:00] Speaker A: Especially considering the way that you are interpreting certain things. And I'm interpreting certain things. I'm gonna get to it when you get to it, but I feel like this relates to things that you say further down the line. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Okay. Ominous. [00:21:15] Speaker A: Oh, and then this is when I was like, I feel like they killed somebody when they're at school. Like, this is my. This is my. When I don't like making blind predictions before I start. I like making blind predictions in, like. Like, four chapters In I like saying, like, I have no information. I haven't even seen all of the POV chapters yet. But I'm like, they definitely killed somebody, you know, when they went to school. [00:21:37] Speaker B: It's funny you say that, because that's like a very. Like, it's a good plot line, which is why it's in a lot of mystery novels that obviously their hidden past is they killed someone while they were younger. Yeah. So it makes sense. But I do bring that up later where there's, like, a part where I'm like, they definitely killed this kid when they were younger. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Yeah. So the next chapter we go to is Olivia. She's the bridesmaid. She's the half sister. She tells us that she doesn't have any friends because she just left university. She's. She's a little depressed. She cuts her thighs to make herself feel a little bit better. Jules comes in and is trying to make sure her dress is fitting. She's trying to be a little bit of controlling. But, like, on. Honestly, if you haven't tried on your bridesmaids dress and it's the day before the wedding, you have nowhere to go, no alterations you can make. Come on. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Like, that is not. I. I get it. Like, it's a little controlling to be like, I'm literally in your room. You need to try it on right now. But everything else, considering that she's never tried it on, I mean, she says, yes, I've tried it on. But then as soon as she puts it on, it's like, doesn't fit her. And I'm like, yes, she's taking it. [00:22:48] Speaker B: Out of the box, and it's wrinkled because it's been in the box the whole time. [00:22:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:52] Speaker B: Like, the bride isn't dumb. Come on. Anyway, that's just my. My bride side tangent. It's revealed that Olivia has lost some weight since she's not been eating since she left uni, she's been going through a lot. And she knows Jules is jealous of her, which is. It just sucks to know your. Your sister's jealous of the pain that you're going through. So I kind of feel for this character a little bit. The dresses revealed to be big on her, but her sister tries to make it okay. And it's like, it's. It's fashionable. I can see it as fashionable. And I was like, this poor little girl, she's going through a little bit of ptsd. She's depressed. Like, somebody help her. At this point, I was like, I really hope it's not Her? [00:23:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I had her as, like, just because she is kind of in a bad place. I can see her potentially snapping and killing somebody. So she is still on my suspect looks, but it's like, I really hope it's not her. She's going through a lot. [00:23:54] Speaker B: She really is. She's gone through it. [00:23:57] Speaker A: So now we are back with Jules the bride, and because she just left her sister, she's kind of thinking about, like, her relationship with her sister and her relationship with her mom, because her mom had her early, and it, like, quote unquote, messed up her mom's acting career. And so her mom was never one to actually take care of Jules or give Jules any love or attention. She always just came seem to be a burden to her mom. And then she goes and talked to her mom, and it's like, oh, what's going. Been going on with Olivia? Like, she's been acting weird. Like, she's. She's won't do anything with me. She keeps disappearing. Like, her dress was not altered. Like, I don't understand what she's doing. Like, it's my wedding. And her mom's like, you can't be so hard on her. She's going through a lot right now. Like, you just need to chill out. And I get it, because Olivia obviously is going through a lot. But at the same time, like, it's your sister wedding. Like, buck up a little bit. Like, she has one friend other than you. [00:24:52] Speaker B: I mean, that's so true. But at the same time, I'm like, I don't know. This chapter just made me not like Jules very much because she was kind of. She started by saying, like, oh, my sister's so skinny. And she doesn't even, like, realize that she's so much better off and is, like, jealous and saying that she had so much more of a childhood than she could. That at least her father shows up. [00:25:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Because Jules's mom ends up marrying Olivia's dad and settles down for a while. And so Olivia ends up getting the childhood that Jules never had because she was always constantly on the run, and her mom was constantly going through men, and they would constantly have to move and do things. And so Olivia had a little bit more stability, and so she's automatically jealous of that. She feels like she didn't get as much of the childhood that she should have. And then on top of that, she has always been, like, slightly chunkier, slightly curvier, or, like, slightly bigger than her sister. Like, she just sees her sister, and she's like, well, you O.B. you look perfect. Like, you. You look perfect. You had a better childhood than me. Like, why are you complaining? You broke up with your boyfriend. But, like, it's your first boyfriend in college. It's not that big of a deal. Like, calm down. At least that's the way that Jules is seeing it. She obviously doesn't understand that there's more going on in the background. But, like, that's all she sees is, like, you only had privilege your entire life and you are taking it for granted. [00:26:08] Speaker B: And I get that. Like, I get it. But it's not your sister's fault. It's your mom's fault. So let's stop blaming your sister, you know, for sure, for sure. So I immediately after this chapter, I was like, it could be her. Yeah, I wouldn't mind if it were the bride. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Especially because she does say in the chapter that she has rage inside of her. And the only thing that calms her rage is knowing that Charlie's boat is about to show up. So I'm like, bro, there's definitely something going on with you guys. [00:26:36] Speaker B: For real. [00:26:36] Speaker A: And now we are back with Hannah, the plus one, who is Charlie's wife again. Charlie's wife. This is. This is his wife is Hannah, not Jules. Hannah has been sick multiple times now on the boat, and she hates that they're about to walk into this because Charlie always puts on airs around Jules and trying to kind of make himself a little bit bigger and a little bit better because he's around wealth and because he's around somebody who has more than him, because he has somebody who is more privileged than him than. He tries to act like that as well. And Hannah doesn't love that. Like, that. He's always kind of done that around Jules. They see everyone waiting for them on the dock and they see Olivia, and Charlie's like, oh, my gosh, she's all grown up. That's so crazy. She used to have a crush on me. Oh, my God. And Hannah's like, great. This little 19 year old who's super skinny and pretty used to have a crush on you. Just another person that I have to worry about. We're on this island. That's fantastic. And then when they get up to the boat, Charlie, because he used to be a sailing instructor as a teenager, he tries to help out the boat guy and like, oh, do you want me to do anything for you? Do. I'm like, like, toss you anything. Do you want me to, like, tie anything? And he's like, no, no, no, I got it. But Then as soon as, like, Will goes up to him and is like, oh, toss me a line so I can, like, tie you guys on the dock. And so the boat guy throws the rope to Will, and Charlie gets jealous because he's like, well, why couldn't I help? And so it's just like this whole thing of him just being up Will and whatever Will is doing. And then Will also helps Hannah out of the boat, and Will. Charlie again, bristles at that. And then as soon as Charlie gets out of the boat, him and Jules decide to hug for a very long time. [00:28:23] Speaker B: Uncomfortable amount of time. [00:28:25] Speaker A: Uncomfortable amount of time before your fiance and your wife, like, it just doesn't. It doesn't make any sense. Like, how can you guys not see what everyone else is seeing, except you can, and you choose to ignore it. And then Hannah tries to not get jealous, obviously, but she is wondering how Charlie feels about Jules and Will's relationship and how she's finally getting married and they're finally here, especially because Charlie, whenever they would meet anyone that Jules is dating, would basically bet how long it would take for this person to be in Jules life. Like, oh, it's probably, like, over under two weeks. Or like, oh, this person has already passed their expiration date. He thrives and loves being, like, guy person that she turns to. [00:29:07] Speaker B: It's rough for Hannah out here. We get to the next chapter, which is Olivia, the bridesmaid again, the bride's sister, half sister. And she goes exploring. She finds this little cave. She's reminiscing about her boyfriend who's already moved on to someone new because she checked her phone. And obviously whenever you check your phone on Instagram and you don't have any connection, it, like, keeps one photo up. Like, whatever last photo you saw was. And it happens to be a photo of her ex boyfriend and his new girlfriend, which is rough. Like, that's all she's gonna see whenever she opens her. Because you will it instinctively. You open your phone and you open the social app as soon as you do, and then you realize you don't have service. [00:29:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:56] Speaker B: And that's all this girl is gonna see. And I feel bad for her. Hannah ends up coming to the tunnel cave thing that Olivia is in, saying she just wanted to hide, didn't really want to be around Jules and Charlie. Catching up, they are talking about how Olivia has dropped out of uni because of her old boyfriend. Callum is his name. But she's saying it wasn't because of the breakup. It was because that just happened, and it Made everything else happen. And she specifically mentions that if that didn't happen, none of the rest would have. She's about to tell Hannah what she did, but then she ends up not. And it's kind of annoying, but, like, I get it. [00:30:37] Speaker A: Yeah. We gotta space it out for the plot. [00:30:38] Speaker B: We gotta space it out. It was at this point that I realized that Olivia's backstory is the most traumatic, which is why she will not be our killer. She's got the most going on. [00:30:50] Speaker A: I was like. I don't know. I. The way that I was thinking about it, and I was like, did she attack somebody? Did she, like, attack the new girlfriend? Did she do something that she felt like she couldn't go back to her old friends or go back to, like, her old life because she fucked it up so bad? Because that's kind of how it seems is like she feels super overwhelmed. She says that she doesn't know what's happening, but, like, she cannot do what she did before because she just, like, went off the deep end. Like, she seems like there's something very bad in her past that she doesn't want to relive. Right. [00:31:18] Speaker B: And I get that because it can kind of lead to her killing someone else out if they find out. But at the same time, like, her mom has already said that she knows what happened. So if her mom knows and her mom's still kicking it, like, I don't think it's gonna lead her to kill someone. [00:31:36] Speaker A: I don't think her mom knows. [00:31:38] Speaker B: Her mom, like, insinuated that she's been going through a lot and that she knew what Olivia specifically was going through. [00:31:45] Speaker A: Yeah, but then Olivia says that she never told anybody in her POV chapters, which is why I'm. Did she. Does her mom know, or does her mom just know that she's going through something and she's kind of like, I'm going through something, Mom. Yeah, that is like, I'm going through something. It's not about Callum. [00:31:58] Speaker B: Okay, Understandable. I still don't think it's her, but, you know, crazier things have happened. [00:32:08] Speaker A: I mean, you could. You could count around. I just am personally not counting her out. [00:32:12] Speaker B: The next chapter is iffy. Wait, ify. Ifa. Okay, the next chapter is Aoife, the wedding planner again. She gets a moment alone because there's, like, a gap in the schedule. She takes her personal time and goes to the cemetery on the island. She's visiting a grave. And then she sees Jules and Charlie going over his MC duties for tomorrow, and they're looking a little bit too cozy together, but that's not her place. So she walks away. And that's all we see from her chapter. [00:32:47] Speaker A: Yes again, if he is a no for me. She's way too stressed to be worried about killing somebody. And then we are at the wedding night, which is a Now it's. It's happening now. Apparently, the waitress comes in, and she's frightened. And if he is there and is trying to talk to her and is like, what's going on? What's going on? And the waitress said that there's a lot of blood and a body outside, and then she passes out. [00:33:14] Speaker B: And that's it. [00:33:16] Speaker A: And that's it. That's the only thing that happens in that little mini chapter. But I will have to say, because of everything that was happening in if he's chapter, and then because we still don't know who is dead or who the killer is, this is when I started suspecting Charlie. I'm like, there's something going on with Charlie. There's something not right with their relationship. There's something going on. Even though he isn't technically, like, a named suspect. I'm like, there's something about him that I do not trust. And so this is when I started putting my eyes on Charlie. [00:33:44] Speaker B: I get it. [00:33:44] Speaker A: I was like, I am looking at you, even though I don't get a POV chapter of you. I'm like, there's something off. I feel like you would definitely try and kill somebody just because, like, I. This entire time, I was like, I feel like he's trying to kill Will. Like, he's gonna kill Will because of everything that's happening with Jules. [00:34:00] Speaker B: Interesting theory, Kristen. [00:34:02] Speaker A: Anyway, and then we go back to the day before, and we're with Hannah, the plus one again, Charlie's wife. And she is able to change after she went to the cave. And she makes herself feel better because she was able to brush her teeth and everything after she threw up. And she's. She's just ready. She's. She's clean and she feels better. But also, Charlie was not in that room the entire time because she went off and she talked to Olivia, and she had this whole thing. Jules and Charlie spend way too much time together. So at dinner, Hannah talks to Will because she doesn't really want to be around Charlie right now or Jules. And he makes her feel attractive and makes her feel like he's paying attention. And she also talks to the other ushers, groomsmen that are there, and they're just kind of Douchebags. And so she doesn't really want to talk to them. She tries to talk to Olivia. She's very standoffish. She seems less interested in talking to her now and starting a conversation in front of a lot of people. And then the ushers ask Jules and Charlie how they met, and they tell the story together as if they're a couple. Or I guess, technically, if you have known each, like, people for a really, really long time. When you tell your story, it does get intermingled, but there's something so inherently couple about telling the story of how you met together. It just is crazy. [00:35:26] Speaker B: It's, like, rehearsed too. Like, they've been. They tell the story all the time because everybody wants to know. [00:35:31] Speaker A: Right. Which makes it even weirder. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:36] Speaker A: And because of how weird this is and, like, the weird vibes that are going on. Jono was like, so have you ever fucked? Like, what's. What's going on with that? Have you ever hooked up straight to the point? And Jules is like, oh, my God, it's my wedding. Why would you ask that? That's so inappropriate. Like. And I'm like, Hannah in the background is like, oh, man. I've always wanted to know the answer to that question, but I also refused to ask because it would hurt me to know the answer, because I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I don't want to know the answer, so I'm just gonna pretend like I don't know the answer. But also, I noticed how they didn't answer the question and they just kind of moved on because EFI interrupted them. So again, it seems unclear and there seems to be. It seems like they. [00:36:18] Speaker B: Aoife, sorry, I'm. Now I'm just gonna start correcting you because, like, we've said it wrong too many times. [00:36:26] Speaker A: I know. I know I have said it wrong too many times. So sorry, it's not Aofi. It's gonna be a weird iteration of Aoife. [00:36:40] Speaker B: That keeps coming out of your mouth whether you try to or not. [00:36:44] Speaker A: Right in front of me. I like, it's not in my notes on this page. And I'm like, I don't know. Don't know. It's out of my brain. Even though I've hear times what's funny. [00:36:53] Speaker B: Is earlier you listen to it on your computer and immediately said it wrong. Like, not the way he said it. And I was like, it, like, really confused me. [00:37:07] Speaker A: Anyway, like I said, IFA interrupts them before they can answer. And Hannah is relieved but also disappointed that they didn't answer. And someone that Hannah and Charlie don't talk about went to the same school as Will. Edinburgh. They both went to the university. And Charlie, like, brings it up in conversation because they're talking about Edinburgh, and then he's like, oh, didn't we know somebody who went there? And then immediately Hannah's like, shut it down. Shut it down. Because they don't talk about that person. And I don't understand why this is when I was thinking maybe Will and whoever this person is have history. And then that's maybe how the plus one kills the groom. But I was. But that was a very small thought. [00:37:54] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:37:57] Speaker A: And then she gets coined or something like that. I can't remember what it's called. But they put a coin in her champagne so that she has to. You have to chug it. Because, like, you have to save the Queen. Because, again, they're British Irish, and so they have the Queen on their pennies. I don't know. [00:38:18] Speaker B: You seem so confused by this tradition. [00:38:22] Speaker A: No, I understand it. I just don't know how to explain it. [00:38:26] Speaker B: I don't know why. But just the way you said it just now is like, I don't know. They do it, and it can make me uncomfortable. [00:38:36] Speaker A: No, I understand it. But also, like, that's. Coins are dirty, and I don't want that in my drink. [00:38:41] Speaker B: Oh, you know what? Valid. That's so valid. It's like getting iced. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Exactly. No, like that I understand. But also, like, you. You just take a knee and you start to chug. You don't have to. Like, nobody does something to you. For the most part. [00:38:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Anyway, after she does this, she feels very alone because Charlie did a backer up. She. It kind of dribbled down her dress. Like, it. It kind of went all over when she was trying to chug this, and it didn't look nice. And everybody's laughing, and because they're. And they're still fucking laughing and being stupid, she feels like they're making fun of her. And she looks up, and in the window of the building, she sees this, like, random person with their face smushed up against the glass, so it's, like, disfigured. And then they say boo. And that's the end of her chapter. [00:39:35] Speaker B: They're wearing a mask as well. [00:39:37] Speaker A: Are they wearing a mask? [00:39:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:38] Speaker A: I thought it said that their face was smushed up so it looked like a mask. [00:39:42] Speaker B: I swear to God. It said in a mask. [00:39:44] Speaker A: It's called pennying, not coining. What did I call it before? [00:39:48] Speaker B: Coining yeah, it's called pennying. [00:39:50] Speaker A: But anyway, he's wearing a mask and his face is smushed, and he. They say boo. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And she screams. I decided this chapter that I love Hannah and that she's, like, trying to put up with all this bullshit that she's getting put through. And she's. She's a better woman than me. That's for sure. [00:40:12] Speaker A: For sure. These people are mean. They are rude. I don't. I would not be. Want to be in this situation. [00:40:18] Speaker B: Me neither. [00:40:19] Speaker A: Do I feel like I could thrive in this situation? Yes. Would I want to be put in this situation? No. [00:40:24] Speaker B: I feel like I would be like Hannah at face value. But, like, once that door gets closed, when we go to bed, you're getting a freaking mouthful and you're gonna correct yourself tomorrow. [00:40:35] Speaker A: That's for sure. No, for sure. [00:40:37] Speaker B: For sure. [00:40:38] Speaker A: We would definitely have a conversation. [00:40:41] Speaker B: If you want to go be with the bride, just tell me now. [00:40:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I. And this is when, again, I get more and more suspicious of Charlie. Every single time that he's on page just off to the side, I'm like, what are you doing over there, man? What are you doing? Am I just suspicious of you because you are basically cheating on your wife? This entire, like, do I just hate you because of that, or is there something deeper to this? That there is actually something suspicious about you? [00:41:07] Speaker B: The next chapter is. We're back into the. The current timeline. It's the wedding night again. We find out that the waitress has passed out that came from the folly. And they decide that most people should stay where it's safe because there's still a storm outside, it's still dangerous, and that a small number of them are going to go searching. And then the next chapter. We're back to the day before Jules, the bride, she's like, basically like, oh, it's just my dad. At the window, Hannah screamed. There's glass everywhere. Now they're cleaning it up. And she's like. She honestly overreacted, but whatever. My dad shouldn't have done that. And I was, like, actually shocked that her dad showed up. It. She made it seem like there was absolutely, like, she did not have contact with him before. [00:41:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I thought it was very little contact, the way he acknowledges her, but it's like they never see each other, which is basically what they say happens, but I wasn't expecting him to show up either. [00:42:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And then she mentions that she doesn't feel like Will is making the best impression with her dad because he starts saying weird Stuff because her dad says. [00:42:19] Speaker A: Like, oh, you're the famous Will. And he's like, well, not yet. And she's like, he wasn't actually talking about you being famous, dipshit. He's talking about how I would talk about you, dumbass. [00:42:30] Speaker B: They're eating dinner. It's mostly going well. We're having that night before dinner, Jules is saying that she used to be jealous of Hannah, and she's now currently wondering if Charlie is jealous of Will like she was of Jules in the beginning. Her mom stands up to make a speech and Jules is hating it. And, like, honestly, I would too. Her mom kind of makes a speech about her more than Jules. So that's annoying. And I'd be super annoyed at that. And then she, like, stands up to make her own speech to kind of, like, kind of shut her mom down. Make sure no, like, nobody else stands up. You know, she feels good about what her and Will have. And then she starts at the very end thinking of the note again and how he might not be who she thinks he is. [00:43:19] Speaker A: Yeah, her and her mom have such a complicated relationship in weird. But then I also started thinking around this time, I was like, maybe I shouldn't be thinking automatically that Will is dead. Because this entire time I've been operating under the assumption that Will is going to be dead at the end of this and trying to figure out who killed Will, which is why I think Charlie is such a big sub suspect for me. But this is when I started thinking, maybe somebody else is gonna die. Maybe I should think about that. And I was like, maybe Charlie's gonna die. I feel like a lot of people would want to kill Charlie. So just throwing that out there. [00:43:50] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah, I can see that. The only thing is, and I'm working off the same assumption because who else would die? Why is the list of suspects not include the groom when he's a main point of the. The event? [00:44:06] Speaker A: Right. [00:44:07] Speaker B: Yeah, that makes sense. If he doesn't die, Imma be shocked, right? [00:44:14] Speaker A: Like, what if he. But what if he doesn't die? That was that. I get. I have one theory. I have one guess. If he doesn't die, that's it. Anyway, we are now with Jono, the best man again. We are at dinner and he's saying how he likes Anna because she's really kind as a person and it seems like she's not fake like everybody else around him, basically. And they're talking and she asked what he does now and how they met and about him and Will and like, everything. Like that. And so he says that he used to be an adventure guide, like we said. He tried out for the show like we said. But again, like we said, he wasn't cut out for it. They told him it wasn't a fit and it was fine. And then they get into, like, what they used to do and how there used to be a prank game, hazing thing, ritual that was named survival that everyone had to do except for Will because his dad was a headmaster, and so nobody ever got him out of bed. But basically what they would do is they would kidnap the boys out of bed when they're in their younger years and then, like, tie them up, blindfold them, and take him deep, deep, deep into the forest and leave them there, and then they have to find their way back in the morning. And again, nobody did this to Will because they were afraid that they would get in trouble because his dad's the headmaster. But everybody else that has gone through this little boarding school has done this. [00:45:40] Speaker B: And Jono even mentions that it, like, kind of helped shape him as a guy. [00:45:45] Speaker A: A couple of the ushers say that. [00:45:46] Speaker B: Yeah, too. Not really upset that it happened, but you never know. [00:45:52] Speaker A: They're like, it. It kind of, like, made me a man. Like, after coming out of the forest, like, it made me feel like I could do anything, like, accomplish anything. It, like, it builds you up in that way. Like, oh, nothing's gonna stop me now. Like, I got through a whole entire night on my own. And then they break out the whiskey that Jono has provided for them, and apparently it's pretty good, but Jules doesn't like it. And then they're like, we're gonna start drinking. We're done with dinner. We just want to have a drinking party again. Jono was, like, kind of talking about, like, Hannah and Charlie and the dynamics that are there and thinking about how the stag party that he threw for Will, that was, like, adventure. They, like, went canoeing and they were in the fore and, like, did, like, a lot of stuff like that. And Charlie showed up, and he. It says that. He says that he barely talked to them while they're there. And he understands because they're a lot when they're together, because environments like that kind of remind them of prep school. And so it kind of becomes pack mentality, and they get carried away. And so it seems like something happened that either Charlie didn't like or they did something to Charlie, and it made him very wary of these people, and yet he still wants to fit in with them and act like them. I find that strange. [00:47:10] Speaker B: Just to mention a stag party is a bachelor's party, basically. [00:47:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:47:15] Speaker B: Equivalent. [00:47:16] Speaker A: Yeah. So the British equivalent. [00:47:19] Speaker B: I do have a small little prediction. Just really, this feels like just a shot in the wild. That the stag party thing is like, they kind of did, like, that wilderness survival test to Charlie, and he kind of, like, went crazy when they did it to him, which is why the dynamics are so awkward between everyone. And also how he felt like he wanted to fit in. He wanted to go through it as well, and he didn't take well to it. [00:47:47] Speaker A: That makes sense. But that makes sense. [00:47:49] Speaker B: That's just like, a shot. [00:47:50] Speaker A: It has to be something. [00:47:51] Speaker B: It has to be. [00:47:52] Speaker A: It has to be something. Or, like, them be like, them hazing him or something or like. Like scaring him in the woods or like, all pretending like they went somewhere and, like, leaving him. Like you said, kind of leaving him and then like, maybe scaring him later or something when he freaks out about it. Yeah, it has to be something like that because he. Yeah, he's not doing super well because. [00:48:13] Speaker B: They'Re in the wilderness. Like, they blatantly said that they took the stag party in the wilderness. Like, it wasn't a normal, you know, go to a strip club kind of thing. [00:48:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:23] Speaker B: So that's the vibes. [00:48:25] Speaker A: I. I'm on the same way as you with that stuff. Okay, so Hannah, the plus one again, Charlie's wife. Like, I don't know if I should keep saying it, but I'm gonna keep saying it. She's Charlie's wife, and I don't think everyone gets that through their heads. So maybe that's what if I keep saying it enough, the people in the story will get it, but get together. The more the boys drink, the more they come like schoolboys and they act rowdy. And she doesn't really like it. Hannah doesn't like it. And especially because Charlie kind of wants to fit in with them and wants to be one of the guys. And Charlie doesn't take well to drinking. The few times that she's seen him and he's drunk too much, there's something inside of him that is different. He's a caged animal. Like, he's a different beast. And she doesn't like when he is like that. And so she doesn't want him to participate in the drinking things that they're about to do. And so she kind of gives him a shake of the head of a. No. When somebody asks him if he wants to play. But the guys see it and so they call it out, and they're like, really gonna let her call the shots, man? Like, you're really gonna do that? Like, you're really gonna let your wife tell you what to do? And so he's like, of course not. And so then he decides to take the shot. Like, what a. Like we would have a conversation. [00:49:46] Speaker B: No, that's just. Hey, some people don't live like that, but, like, also, some people do live like that. [00:49:54] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't. I don't know who we think we are, but no. And then they sing their alma mater song, which is in Latin, but it's do brave deeds and endure. And that's the school motto. But they added a second part to that, which makes it very weird and very ritualistic. And it's, if I can't move heaven, then I shall raise hell. And that's just not great. So they drink, and Hannah. Peace is out. [00:50:29] Speaker B: Hey, Hellraiser. The name of the whiskey he made. [00:50:32] Speaker A: True, true. [00:50:34] Speaker B: Just saying. Connecting dots. [00:50:36] Speaker A: Yeah. So they start drinking. Hannah leaves, but she sees Olivia, and she's like, hey, do you want to go talk somewhere? Like, I have wine in my room. And Olivia's like, no, actually, I. Vodka. And so they're about to start talking, but then one of the ushers comes in, and they're like, okay, we shouldn't talk here. So they decide that they're gonna go talk down at the cave thing. And as they're walking down, it feels like they're ghosts around them. [00:50:57] Speaker B: Hannah's such a girls girl. Like, she's, like, here for Olivia. She's trying to help her. She's, like, being on her best behavior with Jules, which is, like, to say something for sure, it says something, you know? And she's, like, trying her best to, like, let people just be themselves while, like, fitting in herself. [00:51:16] Speaker A: But these are not the people for it. [00:51:18] Speaker B: I don't know. I'm just such Team Hannah. I'm gonna be so upset. [00:51:21] Speaker A: And this is when I was like, I really do not think that Hannah is the type to murder somebody. She's, like, basically off of my suspect list. If it's Will, if it's Charlie, then she is still on my suspect list. But if it's Will, she's basically off my suspect list. Unless it's something that's accidental. [00:51:37] Speaker B: What if it's one of the people? A suspect like, that would totally throw me through a loop. What if it's her? [00:51:43] Speaker A: I'm like, I feel like Olivia's gonna die. Not gonna lie. [00:51:48] Speaker B: No, not her either. Okay. Anyway, and then we're going back to another present day moment where it's the wedding night again. The four ushers have decided they're the ones gonna go to the folly, figure out what's going on. Folly, by the way, guys, is like the castle house thing because they're in an outside area celebrating, doing the the ceremony. They're like school children who thinks it's gonna be like a fun adventure while they're going out there. And it doesn't really feel real to them that somebody's hurt. So that's how we end this. They're little short chapters of current day time. Then we go back to the day before. Olivia, the bridesmaid, she really wants to tell someone what happens. She feel like she's getting tongue tied, but she ends up explaining all this to Hannah. Her ex boyfriend, Kellum, started hooking up with her friend very quickly. After they broke up, she felt alone in Jules flat. She. When she dropped out of uni, she went to stay with Jules and set up a fake profile to find someone to meet just to get, like, her ex boyfriend out of her system. And she. She matched with one guy. He wasn't really like everybody else. She thought he was really cute. They ended up meeting up that day. He was, like, a little suspicious of that. He seemed to like her, even though he kind of, like, knew that she wasn't 26 like she said in her profile. But he still was meeting up with her. Every time they would meet up, they'd go back to Jewel's place and they just have rough sex. And it's not really what Olivia was wanting. And so she continues to see him a couple more times, and she comes a little obsessed with him, but not much. She kind of feels like he's just using her for sex. So she ends up trying to take him to a party for Jules magazine, and she ends up drinking too much while she's there waiting for him. And he ends up getting there and sends her home in a cab and then ghosts her, which is like, valid dude. Like, he was not feeling it. And she just keeps hitting him up, sending him a bunch of texts. And then one day, she sends him text. Ten texts in a row, and he never replies. Hannah asks if they ever saw each other again, and all Olivia can think about is blood and refuses to say anything more. So they go back to the folly, and once Hannah leaves her, she kind of runs into Jono, and Jono, like, hits on her and she's like, bro, get out of here. And that's where we're left off. I'm kind of thinking, because this guy that she was met up with, she told us his name, and his name is like, what, like Steven or something? So I was like, well, it can't be anyone we know. Right. But she catfished him, so it would only be valid that he catfished her, too. And he was hot. So I'm cut. This is where, like a sketchy prediction comes in. I'm thinking the guy she was going out with might have been Will, and that's how Will met her sister, because she invited him to her sister's work party and then he went in to the party after sending her home drunk in the cab. And so that's. And, like, he used a fake profile because he didn't want to, like, use his famous profile, you know? [00:54:58] Speaker A: No, but that makes so much more. That makes so much sense when you. When I think about him, like, that makes. What else could it be? Like, that makes a lot of sense. I. Yeah, I. Now, right now, as of this moment, I'm completely bought into that. But at the time I was still thinking it was somebody else. And so, yeah, I thought that maybe she potentially hurt him and that, like, maybe that's why there's a quote unquote murderer amongst them. Because, like, she hurt him previously. [00:55:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:22] Speaker A: And so nobody's going die now. Like, that's why Will won't be dead, is because they already quote, unquote, had somebody murdered. And so there isn't going to be. [00:55:30] Speaker B: An extra body, which also makes complete sense. Like, I could totally be wrong and I could be just shooting at my ass here, but I don't know. I think that's a good theory. [00:55:39] Speaker A: I think yours is a good theory. Yeah. And then I've. The only other thing I was thinking about Olivia specifically, especially because we know that she's a cutter and she cuts her thighs and, like, maybe the blood that she's thinking about is how she started cutting after this relationship or something. And, like, the things that make. Makes her do now other than like, potentially killing somebody or potentially hurting somebody, that that's the reason there's blood. [00:56:02] Speaker B: That totally makes sense. [00:56:03] Speaker A: Okay. And so now we are with Jono again, and he's kind of going through it because he hasn't thought about school years in a long time, but being on this island is kind of reminding him of it, especially with everyone drinking and, like, being rowdy and everything. And he had bad dreams last night and so he doesn't love Being here. Plus, he's out of weed, and so he's like, I need weed to sleep. And, like, this. This whole place is making me crazy. And when he's in his room, he thinks that he sees darkness gathering in the corner. Not only is it darkness, but it's got a face. And he knows that face, but he tells the thing that's there that it isn't his fault, and then he throws up. And I'm like, they definitely killed somebody. [00:56:42] Speaker B: They. [00:56:42] Speaker A: 100. 100 definitely killed somebody. [00:56:44] Speaker B: 1,000%. [00:56:46] Speaker A: I feel like Will. Especially if, like, Jono's, like, saying it's not his fault, and he seems to be, like, not being able to cope well with certain things. I'm like, he has guilt about something, and it's Will that did it, because Will doesn't have guilt about anything. And he never got to participate in the game of survival, so that. So when he was an upperclassman, I feel like he went super, super hard on the underclassmen that he kidnapped. And so, like, that potentially led to this person's death because he's like, he actually never got to participate in the other side of it, and so he doesn't know how dangerous it can actually be. And so he's like, no, we just need to push it further. No, we didn't. We need to, like. Like, tie them, like, tighter. Do you know what I mean? I feel like he's gonna. It's gonna be something like that where, like, he pushes Jono to do something where, like, it's technically Will's fault. [00:57:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I totally see all of that. I. This chapter also made me go, they 100 killed someone when they were younger. [00:57:36] Speaker A: And I'm like, But again, that goes into, like, potentially, nobody could be dying now because they did murder somebody in the past. [00:57:44] Speaker B: Right? [00:57:44] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:57:45] Speaker B: And it just all comes out and is revealed. [00:57:47] Speaker A: Right? And then we're back with Jules, the bride. Her and Charlie have left the party, and now they're up on the Foley battlements, and they're just looking out, and they're cuddling with each other. They're just hang. They're just so cozy and nice. And he's like, hey, can I ask you about something? Do you really think that Will makes you happy? And she's like, I could ask you the same exact thing about Hannah. And he's like, well, that's different. And she's like, well, how's it different? Like, what do you mean? And Charlie's like, it never would have worked out like, you, the Ambition that, like, we never would have just. It never would have worked out. And, like, Jules is hurt that she kind of. He rebuffs her like that. And so then she thinks about their time together in the past and, like, what they used to do and how she used to follow him around and how she used to have a crush on him and all this stuff. And it seems like they've hooked up. [00:58:40] Speaker B: Up. [00:58:40] Speaker A: It seems like they've had sex. And what she was saying in her, like, past things. I don't know. To me, it seems like they had sex because she's like, oh, I wonder if he thinks about it like this, the one night that we had. And she's like, I think about it sometimes when I'm in the tub, obviously referring to her, like, masturbating. And so I'm like. I feel like they had sex or like they did something. They, like, hooked up in some way anyway. [00:59:04] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. [00:59:05] Speaker A: She kind of, like, tries to ask Charlie if he sent the note. Like, what did you send me that note, Charlie? And he's like, what are you talking about? And so she knows. She thinks that Charlie didn't send the note about Will to her, and she just thinks that Charlie is jealous. And so she's like, whatever, I'm gonna leave. And when she gets back to her room, Will is there, and they have sex because they're just so passionate and in love, and they will have sex every single time that they're together. And then she gets in the bed after taking everything off and, like, changing into her clothes, and there's. She thinks that it's a dead sea animal in the sheets. And so she falls out of the bed, and then she screams. And Will goes and checks it out, and it actually is seaweed. Turns out that's a prank they used to play in school was put seaweed in each other's beds. And so then she's mad, and she wants to wake everybody up and get them to tell her, like, who put that there? Because that's fucking disgusting. And then she thinks about the note calling Will a cheat and a liar. And she's like, what the fuck am I doing? And I'm like, yeah, I would be Superman, too, if I went through this entire day. It's the day before my wedding. And then, not only that, I'm about to get in bed, and then there's seaweed in my bed. Oh, I would be livid. [01:00:17] Speaker B: I would, too. Dude, I just had an epiphany while you were talking just now. What? I have another theory. [01:00:24] Speaker A: Okay. [01:00:25] Speaker B: Because when they bring this up to the ushers later, they're all like, no, definitely wasn't us. [01:00:29] Speaker A: Wasn't us. [01:00:30] Speaker B: And then she doesn't know who wrote this note. It's a random person who wrote this note. [01:00:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:34] Speaker B: What if the person that they think they killed in school is actually alive and is, like, trying to get revenge on Will because he, like, almost killed him. And so, like, he put the seaweed there just as, like, a warning. He told her not to marry Will because Will's a murderer. [01:00:51] Speaker A: Yeah. That's interesting. Or is it somehow the ghost on the island talking to this kid and doing that stuff to them? [01:00:59] Speaker B: Dun, dun, dun. So the next chapter is Aoife, the wedding planner. She hears a strange noise outside. She goes outside to figure out what the noise is. She points out that she's a little less fearful than Freddie because after, quote, unquote, the worst thing happens to you, you don't really feel fear after that. It's sobbing that she hears outside. And turns out it's Jono. He's drunk, smoking weed, and he's like, yeah, I'll go to bed. He tells her that he was seeing things, and she thought he looked terrified in that he saw a ghost. And she kind of thinks he might have. And that's all we get from that chapter. And then we go to earlier in the day of the wedding day. It's Hannah, the plus one. She wakes up, she has a headache. It's 7am the day of the wedding. She's happy. She finds out that when Charlie went to bed, he only had one shot. He told her when he got in bed that that was it. But she's like, but where was he the rest of the night if he only had one shot? Because it was like an hour or hours after she went to bed that he came to bed as well. But she wakes up horny, and she tries to initiate sex, and Charlie says, too tired and kind of shrugs her off, and she leaves because it makes her angry, which is, like, valid. And then she's the first one up, but the wind has already started and she's taking a walk outside. She ends up getting lost and going into the cemetery after Aoife had told her, like, the right way. She got lost. And then she sees a child's grave. And this is when I get into my theory about Aoife, because it's a child's grave. It's a kind of relevant date on it. And I'm starting to think that's the grave that Aoife visited. That's what happened to her. That's her traumatic past, is she lost her child, which is like, honestly, yes, that's very traumatic. After the worst thing happens to you don't really feel fear, right? Going right back to that. And then Aoife immediately sees her and is like, hey, you're off the. You're off the path. That's not the way. And of course, she would notice that if she were in the cemetery. Finally, she finds the right way. She ends up going to a place where she can get reception. She calls her kids. She loves her kids more than anything. Her love of her sister is very close to that, though. And we kind of find out that the one who possibly went to school in Edinburgh, who she lost, is dead. And it's also because of a guy who went crazy after they broke up. So, like, it kind of relates to Olivia's story a little bit. And that's why we're kind of, like, insinuating that she. She understands Olivia a little bit because of her sister. She finds out that her daughter was sick last night. Her mom says that everything's fine. The kids aren't being too much. It's a nice distraction for, quote, this time of year, suggesting that this is around when her sister died. And she says, blatantly, Olivia reminds her of her sister after she came back for school. She was like a deer in headlights. She looked too skinny and all of that. And her sister never talked to her about what happened. She tries to go back to the house or the folly and gets lost. Her foot slips and she starts sinking in the bog and she starts screaming. She's continuing to sink, and Duncan and Pete, the ushers, come up and they're laughing at her, but they still holler out. And then they keep laughing at her, and she's like, okay, I gotta get out of here. They're freaking out, even if they did help me. [01:04:36] Speaker A: So we're in Aoife's chapter, the Wedding Planner. She's at her desk. She's listening to the radio. It sounds like the winds are Gonna hit around 5pm but they still don't think it's gonna be a full storm yet. Freddie loves the food, and they're just getting prepped and everything. Then she goes into the marquee where everything is going to be held, and Will is there. He comes in. He's looking for his ushers that were with Hannah earlier. And she's like, oh, no, I don't know where they are. But he stays, and he tries to act interested in her and just asks her a bunch of questions about herself and, like, why they came to the island and what they used to do. And she came to the island as a kid every summer with her family. And so that's one of the reasons why she bought it, because she used to come here all the time. And she met Freddie a really long time ago. But she's also really uneasy about him asking so many questions and is just wondering why he wants to know it all. She feels like there's an artifice to him in some way. And then he also puts his hand on her shoulder for, like, a beat too long, and she's like, I don't think it's because of attractiveness to me. I think it's like he wants to show me that he's in charge, which is like. That's why I feel like Will's not a great guy. Then we are at the wedding night once again. It is the now time, and the ushers are outside. They're walking through the yard. It's hard to see anything. It's hard to hear anything. And two torches go out in front of them through the path. And then Pete accidentally gets stuck, just like Hannah got stuck earlier. And then Pete freaks out about bodies being in the bog and, like, all this stuff, but it turns out that he's just high out of his mind and he's tripping balls, and so he's just saying, whatever. And so they're like, it's fine, it's fine. And so then they start to joke about it, and then they get mad at each other about joking about it, and they realize that it's actually dangerous out here in the dark and they should figure out what's going on. [01:06:23] Speaker B: Then immediately, we flash back to earlier that day. Jules, the bride, she had a bad dream about the wedding last night. She sees Olivia outside the window getting a little too close to the edge where the waves are coming up in a crash. But she decides that it's not her thing to worry about right now. She has to get ready. She drops her makeup bag because she's shaking. She's a little nervous. And she sees the piece of folded paper that falls out on the floor, and it's slightly soot blackened, and it reveals that one. The note says, will Slater is not the man you think he is. He's a cheat and a liar. Don't marry him. And she's, like, going through it. She's like, maybe it's just a random fan, like when I get bad comments online. But the note didn't have A stamp, meaning it was hand delivered and only after he moved into her place. So it doesn't really feel like a random fan to her. It's soot covered because she threw it in the fire the night she got it. But then she freaked out and took it out, which caused her to get a burn. And now that she's sitting up and staring at it on her wedding day, she decides it's time to get rid of it. She rips it up and flushes it down the toilet. We take another flashback to the wedding night, and they're arguing about being out there. They're finally taking it seriously. There's. There might be a body that they're gonna find. Angus says one of the ushers says survival at school was a bad game, especially since someone died. Like, why are we talking about this in the middle of looking for a dead body? Bemi. Another usher tells Angus and Duncan to stop fighting because it's not the time. Like, they're in a dangerous situation and it's not quite sinking in that someone could be hurt. They noticed that Charlie was seeming off all night and that they're still concerned about what they did to him at the stag and why he's, like, not interacting with them. They also think Olivia's been acting really weird since she got there. But then they see something, someone coming in the distance. Turns out it's Freddie, our Aoife's husband, and he has something in his hand. And that's the last we hear of the wedding day before the end. [01:08:36] Speaker A: So we are with Olivia. It is earlier that day, and there's a blood mark on her dress from the cut on her thigh from earlier. But she washes it out, but there's still a small little stain to remind her of it. And she wants to go talk to Hannah about everything that happened, and she just wants to get it out. But as soon as she goes to her room, it seems like Hannah and Charlie are fighting. And so she backs out. And Will comes out of the room and is like, hey, what's going on? And Olivia just books it and runs. And then Aoife, the wedding planner, is there to greet all the guests that are arriving. And she meets Will's parents and her. His father is very hard and his mother is somebody who hides herself, and she doesn't really like them very much. But then she talks to the boat driver and he says that a storm is coming. And she's like, no, they said it was fine. Like, it's still a long way off. And then she's like, he's like, no, look. And you can just see the storm, like darkness coming and gathering towards them and everything's about to happen. So now we are with Jono, the best man. Him and Will are getting ready and he tells Will, like, I just want to let you know, I'm so honored to be your best man. And then we get a flashback of, like, how he basically strong armed him into making himself the best man because once he found out that they're engaged, he asked Will to go out to celebrate for drinks. And then as soon as they're out, drinks, he was like, oh, my God, I accept. Thank you so much for asking me to be your best man. Of course I would. And he's like, so he didn't actually ask me, but Will, he never gets his feathers ruffled. And so he's like, of course. You read my mind. Of course I was gonna ask you that. I would love for you to be my best man. And John was like, well, technically, when we were in school, we said that we'd be each other's best men. So, like, I was being presumptuous, but also, who else would he get? So, and then the ushers come in and they kind of talk about how Will did well in school, and they're just talking about old times again. And then it's kind of revealed that Will cheated. It seems like he might have cheated back when he was in school because his dad would have killed him if he failed. And seems like there's just a lot of things that Jono helped cover up. Then they're talking about the seaweed thing and how they used to do that as a prank. And then Jono is thinking about the kid who took it well, and they ended up nicknaming him Loner. So I don't know what his real name is, but it's Loner. And I guess he didn't get upset like some of the other kids did. He just kind of took it. And he also, that loner kid also used to follow Will around and seem to worship him. And then he gets back to the present and ushers are like, we didn't put any seaweed in your bed, man. And Jono's like, no, I didn't. And Will seems to think that Jono did it. Like, he. He keeps eyeing him up. He thinks that he did it, but he. It doesn't seem like he did it in his head at least. And then Efi, ifa. Ifa. [01:11:21] Speaker B: I could totally butcher an Irish accent for you and say, ifa does that make sense? [01:11:26] Speaker A: Aoife tells them that everyone is in the chapel and then they're about to leave. And Will is like, just one more time is like, hey, man. Like, I just want to make sure that you're not gonna really say anything in your speech. Like, it's gonna be good and it's appropriate. And Jonah's like, yep, it's gonna be good. Because Will seems to be worried that Jona will say something about their past. But John was like, I also don't want to bring up my past, so it's fine. I will be good. And this is where we're gonna end it today. Like, this is where we're gonna stop. This is basically the middle. We got to page 165 in our books that we have. But I think that loner is the kid that died. And again, I think it's where they took him to the woods. They took him too far. Will specifically took it too far and then he died and then his dad covered it up. [01:12:10] Speaker B: No, I totally agree with that theory. That's a good theory. Very likely. My current theory, though is since we're at the halfway point, I think that still it's the groom, Will, who ends up dead because none of the wedding day like, chapters have mentioned him at all, which is definitely sus. Like, we've mentioned other characters, so I don't think it can be anyone but him. But see, now I'm starting to think the murderer is Charlie. And why do I think it's Charlie? You've said it the whole time we've been recording, but I actually believe it's Charlie because the. The list specifically is my hint. The list of suspects is the bride, the plus one, the best man, the wedding planner, and the bridesmaid. And as these chapters suggest, the best man is Jono. But our bride calls her best friend Charlie her best man. So technically, yes, he is in the list of suspects, but he's not in the chapter's POVs. [01:13:23] Speaker A: I think that's a very good theory. I think that could be a very good third act twist of like, oh, it's not who you think it is. Like, it's actually this person. Which is a good reasoning for why it could be Charlie. Because I've been suspicious of Charlie, but I'm like, he's not on our suspect list. Like, it has to be somebody else. But the way that you're telling us, like, technically he is on our suspect list, we just didn't realize it. [01:13:43] Speaker B: Right. [01:13:43] Speaker A: Which is nice. So I like that again, I feel like it's very hard to solve this mystery if I don't know who's going to be dead. I also think it's Will, but I, again, still kind of have the theory of maybe nobody dies and it's just a previous murder that we find out about. That's my only other theory. [01:14:00] Speaker B: The past murder. [01:14:01] Speaker A: Other than Charlie murdering Will or murdering Charlie. I think that the only other twist that it could be is that it's a path to. That's it. [01:14:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, guess what? [01:14:14] Speaker A: We'll find out next week. [01:14:17] Speaker B: Exactly. See you next week. [01:14:21] Speaker A: Bye.